tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post4669239738863006869..comments2024-01-31T02:49:46.927-06:00Comments on Castle Inanity: Frea vs. mxpw - Chuck vs. Phase ThreeFreahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15324572697846855260noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-4689025887860703312010-11-25T09:04:00.821-06:002010-11-25T09:04:00.821-06:00On a lighter note, did anybody else ROFL HARD duri...On a lighter note, did anybody else ROFL HARD during this scene?<br /><br />'What are you doing here, all alone? This is nothing but scoundrels, assassins, and warlords... scum of the Earth.'<br />'Ah, Mr. Casey, your usual?'<br /><br />I almost died laughing!<br /><br />Happy Turkey day peeps!<br /><br />-BCFJottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595317701577462773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-52858110698642887922010-11-25T07:41:39.584-06:002010-11-25T07:41:39.584-06:00@anonymous
I don't think anyone wants to go b...@anonymous<br /><br />I don't think anyone wants to go back to Chuck being unable to defend himself. But ever since he got the 2.0 there's been something missing from his character. Its like everyone forgot how smart and capable he was before the 2.0. I love to see him fighting alongside Sarah but I'd like him to use that "special" brain of his I keep hearing about. There&#JCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-72509359732068853602010-11-25T03:03:34.516-06:002010-11-25T03:03:34.516-06:00Chuck and Morgan got the respectful attention of t...Chuck and Morgan got the respectful attention of the Volkoff organization while relying on nothing but mass transit and credit cards for months on end. They also got closer to Mary Bartowski's real whereabouts than Orion ever did. Chuck didn't use 2.0 to fight in all that time.<br /><br />So no, he really doesn't need to crack skulls to do good spy work. He doesn't even need the Ayefahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-39719392927841899042010-11-25T03:02:53.707-06:002010-11-25T03:02:53.707-06:00I don't quite know why I read these comments a...I don't quite know why I read these comments anymore, they always make me anxious. The reason why I started watching Chuck was because I liked Chuck and, even more so his journal towards becoming a spy. I'm not one of the people who think Chuck should be Rambo (or anywhere in that vicinity) I did like him to be able to defend himself. One thing I don't want is for them to go back to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-80732421487480982852010-11-25T01:51:00.692-06:002010-11-25T01:51:00.692-06:00@mxpw
Sorry if I wasn't clear about what I wa...@mxpw<br /><br />Sorry if I wasn't clear about what I was saying. <br /><br />I had somewhat similar hopes during the summer about Chuck not rejoining the CIA. But once I heard the BuyMore was back I knew it wasn't going to happen. For all the talk about growth Schwedak is really afraid of change or giving the show any dramatic weight.<br /><br />And I agree with Chuck needing some agencyJCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-60933603983899087142010-11-25T01:22:04.025-06:002010-11-25T01:22:04.025-06:00@JC - Ah, I see. I'm not really opposed to tha...@JC - Ah, I see. I'm not really opposed to that. In fact, my biggest hope before the season started, beside hoping they didn't screw up Chuck and Sarah, was that Chuck would stay out of the CIA and work for himself. And that Casey and Sarah would join him. And Chuck would become a kind of Batman-like figure, that used Orion's resources to become some kind of behind-the-scenes master mxpwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01169374944969495531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-81074512000998098112010-11-24T20:12:48.011-06:002010-11-24T20:12:48.011-06:00We are getting hints of Batman-Chuck with the tran...We are getting hints of Batman-Chuck with the tranq gloves and with his ability to apparently learn basic gemology over the course of a trans-Atlantic airplane flight. Oh, and the takedown-via-videoconferencing last season, which was, for me, Chuck's true victory of the finale far more than any 2.0-enhanced fistfight. <br /><br />But as I've said too many times already, it'll be the Ayefahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-20918856749211706952010-11-24T16:21:59.099-06:002010-11-24T16:21:59.099-06:00@mxpw
I was talking more about Batman's menta...@mxpw<br /><br />I was talking more about Batman's mentality and the way he handles threats. His greatest strength is how smart he is and that he plans for everything. He can basically beat any normal person up but what makes him dangerous is he doesn't have to.<br /><br />That's what I want to see with Chuck. I love the idea of Chuck being able to defend himself but its needs to be JCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-52002368297063278462010-11-24T16:20:49.448-06:002010-11-24T16:20:49.448-06:00@Sparky - Yeah, and he was an arrogant jackass to ...@Sparky - Yeah, and he was an arrogant jackass to Sarah and everybody else, when he had absolutely zero reason to be. Plus, I really hated everything to do with Hannah, so...mxpwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-59152880758446009202010-11-24T15:57:54.273-06:002010-11-24T15:57:54.273-06:00Punch Chuck in the face? The guy was poisoned in t...Punch Chuck in the face? The guy was poisoned in that episode! And had to deal with Hugo Panzer! LOL :PSparkynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-37404042648184394922010-11-24T15:44:42.297-06:002010-11-24T15:44:42.297-06:00Continued...
@BCF 2 - I have to disagree somewhat...Continued...<br /><br />@BCF 2 - I have to disagree somewhat with your perception of Chuck here. I don't think he always needs coddling or pep talk. I think that he had a legit reason to freak out this time, especially since it was his own mother that screwed everything up for him. And, in fact, I'd say FOD was actually about Chuck chafing under Sarah's coddling. Chuck wasn't the mxpwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-83103081370780726252010-11-24T15:43:38.953-06:002010-11-24T15:43:38.953-06:00Another epic comment from yours truly!
@Jeff 1 - ...Another epic comment from yours truly!<br /><br />@Jeff 1 - Like Frea, I don't want to get into a S3 debate. Especially about Sarah. Like I said in the review, I feel like Fedak and I are square after Phase 3 for everything he did to Sarah in S3. So I'm trying not to dwell. I will say this, however, despite all the analysis and picking apart and attempts at justification for Sarah's mxpwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-71956152026246987742010-11-24T14:21:36.190-06:002010-11-24T14:21:36.190-06:00@Frea: I have the "opposite" view of the...@Frea: I have the "opposite" view of the Sarah plot chameleon theory to which most people around here subscribe. The many plots in S3 were weak because the writers were trying to hard to show this epic star-crossed romance which resulted in Sarah finally saw Chuck as the man she loved, not just the asset she loved. There were no random plots. They were are carefully, sometimes MyNameIsJeffNImLosthttp://www.fanfiction.net/u/2425126/MyNameIsJeffNImLostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-71923144968630323682010-11-24T12:59:29.274-06:002010-11-24T12:59:29.274-06:00Frea and mxpw, with the way things are going;Shwed...Frea and mxpw, with the way things are going;Shwedak will probably say,Shaw wasn't anyone important and jokes in the latter half of the season were just jokes :P<br /><br />I think Zac will want more scripts like Yvonne got :)Sparkynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-77895277680709434652010-11-24T12:28:57.494-06:002010-11-24T12:28:57.494-06:00I do think they're dragging it out but I'm...I do think they're dragging it out but I'm not surprised. The show tends to do that until people are completely sick of something. <br /><br />I guess this my own fault but once Chuck got the 2.0 I thought he would be like Batman. Not the movie one but from the comic books. Bruce Wayne is great because he's smarter than everyone else. Yeah he can beat you up but he'd much rather JCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-70820205201870292282010-11-24T12:18:38.819-06:002010-11-24T12:18:38.819-06:00@Frea
I think they should fully turn back to the ...@Frea<br />I think they should fully turn back to the S2 dynamic (they are doing it already) while exploring some other option. I call it the MCGuyver formula. Remember Orion's comment about Chuck being a the best engineer he knew? Suffice to say, the guy built 3 Governor's by himself.<br /> <br />As for Season 3, I really think the show should have started with Honeymooners and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-62582721459497518362010-11-24T12:16:49.963-06:002010-11-24T12:16:49.963-06:00Wow, I wasn't expecting such a thorough respon...Wow, I wasn't expecting such a thorough response Frea. Now I understand how you can write lengthy chapters on your limited schedule.<br /><br />He-Man Chuck was seriously overdone in S3, but a smart and reserved use of 2.0 skills can and should be part of Chuck's arsenal of options. Seriously, how believable is it to have every badguy confrontation with end in some object luckily Jottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595317701577462773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-8559655202037200432010-11-24T11:56:08.851-06:002010-11-24T11:56:08.851-06:00And continued here...
By the time they could leg...And continued here...<br /><br /><br />By the time they could legitimately do damage control--<i>Honeymooners</i>--too many people had jumped ship and the ratings were tanking. It wasn’t helped along by the Olympics forcing a break in the worst possible place after the nine-month break between the seasons. Still, enough fans hung around and NBC was doing so terribly with shows that a fourth Freahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324572697846855260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-35071751225969200022010-11-24T11:55:46.235-06:002010-11-24T11:55:46.235-06:00BCF,
In addition to what Vincent said, here'...BCF, <br /><br />In addition to what Vincent said, here's my take on it, from a viewer/writer perspective: I love Chuck. Not just as a show, but as a character. Otherwise, I wouldn't have spent 703 pages in his perspective so far. I mean, Sarah's kickass (Uh, look around, we may have a slight fixation here at CI) and she's great because she's dynamic, but half the reason IFreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324572697846855260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-12980188271425670122010-11-24T11:46:49.957-06:002010-11-24T11:46:49.957-06:00@BCF
First and foremost: Nielsen ratings are col...@BCF <br />First and foremost: Nielsen ratings are collected by computing the results sent by Nielsen boxes, this kind of hardware is given to a limited number of households. Since Nielsen families are tied with a NDA, we can't know the exact demo composition of each household, the system is rigged in itself.<br /><br />Numbers like 4.8 millions or 1.7 adults are not real they are a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-66408182597968181222010-11-24T11:20:11.820-06:002010-11-24T11:20:11.820-06:00Ehmmmmm....yeah, no, don't buy any of that as ...Ehmmmmm....yeah, no, don't buy any of that as in character for her. Also not in character for Chuck. S3 will always strike me as the writers twisting the characters to make the plot work. However, unfortunately, since all of that aired, it's canon, but there are ways to work around that when writing, and I suspect that these ways mean as a fandom, we've got a greater number of AU Freahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324572697846855260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-59684799724579394962010-11-24T11:07:31.231-06:002010-11-24T11:07:31.231-06:00I'm having a hard time understanding the Neils...I'm having a hard time understanding the Neilson ratings Chuck has earned this season. Overall, as far as Chuck fandom goes, this season has been equal to or better then 1 yet the ratings continue to fall.<br /><br />Pretty much every character in Chuck has improved....but Chuck. Can fans or new viewers not appreciate the underachiever and it's chasing them away? <br /><br />Maybe the Jottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595317701577462773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-59968600170018311742010-11-24T10:59:59.715-06:002010-11-24T10:59:59.715-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595317701577462773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-79343124705731903192010-11-24T09:07:48.629-06:002010-11-24T09:07:48.629-06:00@mxpw - I claim to know nothing about "Master...@mxpw - I claim to know nothing about "Masters of the Universe", except IMDB is my friend and now I going to spend the rest of the day getting "By the the power of Greyskull, I have the power!" out of my head.<br /><br />I like your different rating systems for technical and entertainment. For example, I'm in the small minority that thinks Sarah completely in character MyNameIsJeffNImLosthttp://www.fanfiction.net/u/2425126/MyNameIsJeffNImLostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79953729582147632.post-828752760741050922010-11-24T02:22:45.456-06:002010-11-24T02:22:45.456-06:00This is going to be an epic comment of epicness as...This is going to be an epic comment of epicness as I try to respond to everybody at once. Let's see how it goes!<br /><br />@Vincent - Agreed. I'll admit, my first thought when Sarah said that was that Chuck should have gone, "How about you flash first, then I'll go." Regardless, that scene was hot!<br /><br />@1b-bb-r - Hmm...I guess I see what you are saying about the mxpwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01169374944969495531noreply@blogger.com